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welcome to space to the ground and

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welcome to my house the christopher c

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craft mission control center at nasa's

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johnson space center

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in just a few weeks it will be from this

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very room that flight controllers will

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oversee the artemis one mission the

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first of a series of flights that will

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lead to the return of humans to the

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surface of the moon and lift off

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for over 20 years the international

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space station has served as a low earth

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orbit platform for human space

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exploration scientific research and

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technological innovation

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now the orbiting lavatory is leading the

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way for the next generation of space

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stations and moonwalkers

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nasa is looking towards a return to the

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moon through artemis where we will

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explore more of the lunar surface than

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ever before

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building on a history of operating a

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space station in low earth orbit and

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with collaboration with commercial and

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international partners artemis will

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establish the first long-term presence

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on and around the moon

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a vital component of artemis is a new

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state-of-the-art space station dubbed

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astronauts as they go between lunar

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orbit and the lunar surface

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gateway will also allow for the remote

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support of the artemis base camp as our

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future robots and astronauts explore

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further and conduct more science than

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ever before

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gateway will remain in orbit for more

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than a decade providing a place to live

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and work and supporting long-term

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science and human exploration on and

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around the moon

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to learn more about the gateway space

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station and how it has grown from the

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lessons learned with the international

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space station we are joined by sean

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fuller the international partner manager

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for the gateway program at nasa's

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johnson space center

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so one of the things about gateway is

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that it's building on the international

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space station what kind of lessons

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learned are you taking from the iss for

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gateway today yeah that's great we got a

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lot of folks working in the gateway

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program like myself that have a history

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in iss

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also have our crews so it's great that

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the crews that have spent time living on

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iss that can translate that into a into

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gateway for us to think about it so

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lessons learned we have in there when we

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really think about the layout inside of

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gateway it goes into the small things

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the computers that the crew uses how can

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we condense that down to the numbers of

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laptops and interfaces on gateway we see

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a lot of equipment externally

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that would be a harsher radiation

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environment for us in gateway different

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design concepts a lot of ours is

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example are all internal we bring a lot

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of that stuff inside and so we take

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apply to it though because it's crew

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tended is think about reliability and

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maintainability because the crew is not

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there we've learned a lot of great

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lessons on iss we often reference ams we

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did some great evas did some stuff on

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all right gentlemen luca if you need it

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it's a clocking of six when you get back

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that is a big lesson learned out of iss

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so in other words in the beginning it

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doesn't necessarily need to be fully

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designed to be replaceable but give us

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those tools those interfaces and with

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this great team we'll figure out a way

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to do that in the future

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so i know with the international space

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station we do have mission control

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centers all over the world and we have

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international partners so how many

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countries are we working with with

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of international space station and that

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cooperation so we have on gateway today

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is nasa where we're leading that our

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european colleagues are with us building

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module that will provide refueling on

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orbit stowage very important for us crew

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see the earth see the moon that's where

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colleagues canadians big surprise

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canadarm3 so building off of the first

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canadarm3 along with all the great

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external robotic fixtures it'll have our

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science on it'll have orus across

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the european esa ihab module and also

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htv x g gateway version

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the world we're going to have centers

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operate gateway a little differently

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of crews there so we'll have uh centers

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an on-call type situation a lot of stuff

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telemetry or you know yeah we'll have

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great capabilities and so we'll flush

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have mission control support those

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and so that's what gateway lets us do

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gateway is that hub it's kind of that

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hike and you come back to and get

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resupplied but then we'll also look

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farther right this is moon to mars what

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that mars exploration and gateway is

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as we look at iss today it's a lot

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lunar surface but also the expanse

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capability within gateway for a mars

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keeping it very open

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role of gateway it's an outpost iss is

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six seven crew 365 days a year gateway

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lander perhaps all four in the future

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it's about a four maybe five bedroom

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you look at gateway it's probably more

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of your studio apartment size in terms

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of volume but our overall mission is

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different right gateway is supporting

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that full mission of the lunar surface

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we have crews go down there so we keep

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all those things in mind as we build the

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complex that's fantastic sean fuller the

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international partner manager for the

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gateway program thanks again for joining

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it's a really exciting time here at nasa

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with the international space station

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continuing to grow and expand our

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knowledge of living and working in space

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and now with gateway a next generation

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we will use what we learn on and around

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the moon to take the next giant leap

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sending the first astronauts to mars

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we invite you to come along as we take

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those giant leaps and the small steps

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you can follow us on twitter at nasa

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artemis and at nasa underscore gateway

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and that's face to ground for now i'm

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kayla lafrance at mission control in